pad/compound combination

[bull6791]

Mike
Just asking: is there any way to still get any of the books you have written or you can’t get them any more. Thanks.

 

[Mike Phillips]

Mike
Just asking: is there any way to still get any of the books you have written or you can’t get them any more. Thanks.

You can find them on eBay.


Mike

 

[Mike Phillips]

JR107
I was asking how many pads because I just don’t know if one pad would do a whole care.

Frank

Trying to use a single pad on a car might work, but the pad will suffer.

Also, if you're using a FREE SPINNING, random orbital polisher, that is NOT gear-driven, then the WETTER or more SATURATED the pad becomes as you work around the car, the WORSE it will rotate and oscillate and this means you're simply spinning your wheels, or more bluntly - waiting time.

If the paint on this car you want to machine polish, and you want to do ONE polishing job, that is go around the car ONE time with some kind of polish or cleaner/wax, here's your process.

Step 1: Wash and dry car.

Step 2: Inspect paint using the Baggie Test - if you feel little bumps, this means the paint has bonded contaminants and the best way to remove them safely is via a fine grade bar of detailing clay.

Step 3: Do a Test Spot - see video already shared.

Step 4: If you are able to dial-in a process to one small area and it looks good to you - stop here.

Step 5:Tape-off any exterior pebble textured, black plastic trim. If you stain this material with polish or wax in my opinion and experience - you will NEVER remove it visually 100%. This means you'll get to look at stained plastic trim the rest of the time you own the car.

Step 6: Buff out entire car - start at the top then work your way down and around. If this is your first time - I STRONLY recommend tackling ONLY the HOOD or FRONT CLIP (hood and front fenders). This way you'll see exactly what you're getting into without becoming disappointed that it takes so long. If you try to do the entire vehicle in one day - your first time - from start to finish, it's going to take you 8 to 12 hours. Just depends on how fast your work and how many breaks you take.

Please take my word, just tackle the front clip or the hood the first time. If you start early, you can be done by early afternoon. You won't get burnt-out and you won't be dead-dog-tired. You'll also have time for a shower and relax the rest of the day. (this advice is in my second book, not sure if it made it to the third book).


How many pads to use
If doing just one buffing step to entire car - the plan on a minimum of 4-5 pads. In a perfect world, you'll get the best rotating and oscillating action out of any type or brand of free spinning, random orbital polisher when using DRY pads. As a pad becomes wet with product, and this is what happens as you work around the car, it becomes heavy and soft. It stops cutting like it did when it was dry and your polisher will STRUGGLE to maintain pad rotation and pad oscillation.

It's pretty easy to show yourself this, just pay attention to how well or how bad a pad is both rotating and oscillating on your polisher after buffing out a couple of body panels. Then place a fresh, clean DRY pad on the same polisher and watch and pay attention to pad movement. You'll instantly see better pad rotation and better pad oscillation.

Not sure if the above helps, but that's what I got.


Mike

 

[bull6791]

Mike.
That was a great write up. Very helpful. Also I did watch your first 2 videos. Polishing for beginners and 500 + tips for beginners part 1. I really enjoyed them.

Just for your info I protect my car with COLLINITE 845. I really like it. So I would want to either use an aio or polish that is compatible with the collinite 845.

 

[bull6791]

Mike
I saw in your video 500 + tips for beginners you were using a clay towel. It was the solid kind. I also have a clay towel. I have the sm Arnold speedy prep towel. I have the gray one which is the fine grade. I think they work fine.

 

[Mike Phillips]

Mike
I saw in your video 500 + tips for beginners you were using a clay towel. It was the solid kind. I also have a clay towel. I have the sm Arnold speedy prep towel. I have the gray one which is the fine grade. I think they work fine.

Here's a video I made on the Speedy Prep Towel back in 2012 - Like the Nanoskin brand, this is a quality product.

Stay tuned for the tip at the end.

Also just to note - back in 2012 - that was likely an iPhone 3 I was using to shoot that video - so low resolution or low quality video capture and output.


Here's the matching article,

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Mike

 

[bull6791]

Mike
Thanks for replying back. Your articles and videos are always good I really like the.
Did you read in my previous message. I use COLLINITE 845 on my car and I really like it. So I want to either use an aio or polish that is compatible with it.

 

[Mike Phillips]

Did you read in my previous message. I use COLLINITE 845 on my car and I really like it. So I want to either use an aio or polish that is compatible with it.

Collinite 845 is an old-school style wax and you can pretty much use any quality compound, polish and/or AIO to prep the paint for this wax.


Mike

 

[bull6791]

to prep the paint before you put on collinite 845 I did not know you could use any aio polish or compound. I thought I had to pick one that was compatible with the COLLINITE 845. Mike with that being said is there any thing products that if I put COLLINITE 845 on top of that it will not work because of compatibility issues. Thanks.

 

[Mike Phillips]

to prep the paint before you put on collinite 845 I did not know you could use any aio polish or compound. I thought I had to pick one that was compatible with the COLLINITE 845.

There's not much to be compatible with the Collinite Wax. It's an old school style wax and all it really needs is a clean, smooth surface to stick to.

Mike with that being said is there any thing products that if I put COLLINITE 845 on top of that it will not work because of compatibility issues. Thanks.

None that I can think of.


In your other thread HERE - you wrote,

As a beginner what would be some good polishing and correcting products that would be easy to use. Thanks.

Then I answered,

That said, Harbor Freight carries some Meguiar's compounds and polishes and if you're getting your Harbor Freight polisher there, might as well get some products and pads while you're at it.

And because I work for Dr. Beasley's, I would put our NSP Primers up against anything. The chemistry is completely different than anything else on the market and they do cost more. So let your budget be your guide.

The Meguiar's compounds and polishes were used for over 100 years to prep paint for WAX. So you're good to go.


At some point, after you collect all your supplies, it's time to stop researching, go out to the garage and get busy.

Mike

 

[Mike Phillips]

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