Pictures & Videos - February 2026 2-Day Car Detailing Class - No Chairs - Zero Sitting - Mike Phillips

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In my opinion and experience, the Griot's Garage G9 offers the BEST performance in the category of Free Spinning, Random Orbital Polishers of any stroke length.

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Here's a link to a picture of the Griot's Garage G9 with the 1979 blown El Camino in the background and here's a link to my friend Doug Hodge



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Here are the final results!

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Two Cars Detailed using the same process - 1-Step Ceramic AIO Paint Correction

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Thank you to everyone for working very carefully on both the classic car and the exotic car!

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Outside Pictures
And here's a few beauty shots after moving the car outside as the owner was on his way to pick up is now beautiful 1962 Chevrolet Impala

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Topic: How to Remove Orange Peel and other Surface Texture on Custom Paint
Training Car: 1963 Chevy Impala - fresh out of the paint booth with a fresh, basecoat/clearcoat paint job

WHITE Paint - The Hardest Color To Sand and Buff
In my opinion, the color white is the most difficult color to sand and buff. Why? Because it's more difficult to see and access fine details on the surface. By this I mean, you must look LONGER and more INTENTLY as you sand to be able to tell when you've flattened the surface, (leveled the orange peel).

Then you have to look LONGER and more INTENTLY when buffing out the sanding marks to be able to SEE when 100% of the sanding marks are removed so you can move onto a new section. It's not that it cannot be done it's just easier to sand and buff any other color than white.

That said, when a local car owner heard about our wetsanding classes, and after doing his research, discovered we're the real-deal, he offered me his BEAUTIFUL WHITE 1963 Chevy Impala for our class and I accepted and confirmed this car for this May 2-day class.

Keep in mind, the students in this class just finished an incredibly INTENSE first day starting the day in this example doing the Comet Wash to a BARN FIND 1965 Plymouth Valiant and then after the Comet Wash, the first tool they trained with was the rotary polishers. And the reason I start all our classes with the rotary polisher is because after sanding the Impala, I need these people to have some level of experience and more important CONFIDENCE to again use the rotary polisher only this time, for the very important part of the job and that is removing the sanding marks after the sanding step.


We washed the Impala on Friday, after the class trained Sub-Surface Glass Polishing to remove Wiper Scratches out of the windshield. After that process, we moved the car outside and gave her a thorough bath to pre her for sanding. Stay tuned for pictures for both the Sub-Surface Glass Polising for the 1963 Impala and the Acid Stain removal off the glass on the 1962 Impala.


Step 1: Hand wetsand to flatten the paint and thus remove the Orange Peel
For this step, the class learned how to correctly hold and move a soft block over the paint using Nikken 2000 grit finishing papers.


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Results After Hand Wetsanding
If you look closely, all the paint now is completely dull, which is normal after sanding. The goal of wetsanding is to FLATTEN the surface via sanding, which in turn, removes the orange peel. The flatter you can get the surface, the higher the D.O.I. which stands for Distinction of Image. A mirror for example, has a D.O.I. of 100 - and this is why when you look at a mirror, it reflects your image back perfectly. This is why you sand custom paint, to create a MIRROR FINISH.

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Next up, the class will learn a very different sanding technique called Machine Dry Sanding. With this step, the class will refine 2000 grit sanding marks to 2500 grit sanding marks using 2500 grit sanding discs.



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Why Machine Dry Sanding?
Easy, because it is EASY. It's a lot easier to let a cordless DA Sander oscillate a sanding disc over the surface than it is to use you hand to push a hand sanding backing pad over the surface. The human hand gets tired easily and you have to focus and WORK at applying equal pressure while using a tight pattern to sand and level paint. And YES, starting with hand sanding is the best way to flatten the surface texture, (like orange peel), to maximize D.O.I. or Distinction of Image.

But once you've done the initial cut via hand wet sanding, it's almost fun to switch over to machine dry sanding. Now instead of you doing the work, the machine does all the work. The sanding action is VERY UNIFORM and there's no mess like you get with the sanding slurry that you get when wet sanding.

The Problem with Foam Backed Sanding Discs
I don't ever see much machine dry sanding anywhere in the Internet an especially in car detailing classes. Most classes either focus on hand wetsanding or dampsanding using the 3M Trizact sanding discs. The problem with the Trizact sanding discs is they have FOAM BACKING as a part of the design and this means they are no where near as effective at actually LEVELING orange peel as compared to hand sanding or machine dry sanding.

With 3M Trizact or ANY other type or brand of sanding disc with a foam backing, the sandpaper surface sands BOTH the high points and the low points, so compared to NO foam backing, it's a lot less effective and it removes paint needlessly.


Pneumatic Sanders vs Electric Sanders vs Cordless Sanders
To day, I've NEVER see any other class using CORDLESS sanders but instead they are using traditional pneumatic or air-powered sanders.

Pneumatic Sanders
The problem with pneumatic sanders, at least for newbies, is the entire time you're sanding, you have deal with and MANAGE a very stiff, air line. It's either trying to kick the back of the sander UP so the sanding disc is not flat to the surface, for example, placing the airline over your shoulder. Or the stiff airline is trying to pull the back of the sander downward, which kicks up the front of the sander and again, it's more difficult to keep the sanding disc FLAT against the surface. It's simply more work. And, you also need to have a larger air compressor, usually a 60 Gallon Air Compressor, The tank is about as tall as you), in order to feed enough air to the sander as ALL air tools are AIR HOGS, even small air powered tool.

Electric Sanders
Electric DA Sanders like the Mirka Mirka DEROS II 650 Dust-Free Sander with Case is almost $700.00 while the FLEX FX3411 Cordless DA Sander is under $150.00. And of course you can use "some" DA Polishers as sanders, like short orbit stroke polishers like the Porter Cable 7424XP, the Harbor Freight BAUER 5.7 Amp, 6 in., 8 mm Short-Throw Random Orbit DA Polisher/Sander. I've used the Porter Cable polisher many times as an ELECTRIC DA SANDER but this large orbit stroke makes this what is referred to as a ROUGHWORK sander. And for car paint, it's better and safer to use a FINISHING sander, something in the 3mm to 6mm in Metric units or 3/32" to 3/16" in U.S. Standard units.


Cordless Sanders
With a cordless sander, you have absolute freedom to sand around the car with NEVER having to manage a stiff airline. And while I'm a big fan of the FLEX cordless sanders, you can pick up the cheaper BAUER 20V Cordless, 5 in. Random Orbit Sander with Dust Bag - (Tool Only) for $25.00, you still have to purchase batteries and a charger and because I have TWO of these in the Dr. Beasley's Stuart Training Center, I know first hand they are junk compared to FLEX FX3411. Considering what your time and energy are worth, please don't be a pound-wise and penny-foolish, get the best tool for the job.


The Secret is the Hook & Loop
When talking about velcro or hook and loop material, a lot of the foam interfaces on the market have a long or tall HOOK and this creates a lot of variance as it relates to "trying" to sand only the highest portions of the paint surface. Orange Peel is like hills and valleys and when sanding to flatten the surface, the goal or idea is to keep all the sanding action on the high point until the are level with the low points, thus creatin a FLAT surface.


RUPES Foam Interface Pads
While I like the Eagle Abrasives by KOVAX foam interface pads as they have a micro-hook design, which keeps the sanding action on the highest points on the surface, my long-time friend at RUPES Jason Rose, and his team came up with what I think is the PERFECT foam interface pad. The foam itself is firm but flexible and of course, like the Eagle Abrasives by KOVAX foam interface pads, they use micro-hooks. Plus I love co-mingling RUPES with FLEX, just to drive my freinds at RUPES crazy!


Summary
For all the above reasons, we show the two most important skills, hand wetsanding followed by machine dry sanding. For the type of sanding that is predominantly done in the CAR DETAILING WORLD -it's simply a powerful 1-2 Punch. I know all the Social Media Experts will disagree, but I have yet to see their article or video explaining all of the above as I have done here, nor have I ever seen any of the Social Media Experts SHARE PICTURES from THIER CLASSES. They don't exist, so it's just bloviating and puffing themselves up to appear as the expert in sanding.


Eagle Abrasives by KOVAX (the actual name of the brand, not just KOVAX)
In our sanding classes, the goal is to never create the perfect show car finish, the goal is to teach people how to move their hand when hand sanding and how to move their hand when machine sanding. For this reason and because we normally don't have the paint FILM BUILD like you would have if you worked in Dave Kindigs shop, we keep everyone safe and tend to start either with 1500 grit or 2000 grit for hand wet sanding and then 2000 or 2500 grit for refining the hand sanding marks via machine dry sanding.

It all depends on my confidence in the topcoat thickness. And as a rule, I practice, preach and teach to ALWAYS try to contact the painter and explain you're going to sand one of their paint jobs and simply ASK THEM - How much clear did you spray on this 1963 Impala, which I did and my buddy Jeff said he sprayed 4 solid coats of clear over the white basecoat.


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Here you can see all the tools we used for the 1963 Impala SS

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It's GO TIME!
After a demonstration on correct technique for machine dry sanding, I turn the class loose and then continually walk around the car, monitoring the students and what they are doing to ensure no mistakes.

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Always Wear Some Form of Breathing Protection
None of us should be breathing in clearcoat paint particles into our lungs, so always wear some form of protection.

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FLEX PXE-80 - BEST 3" Sander Hands Down
When this tool first came out it was introduced as a paint correction tool, a polisher. When I looked at it, (and I received the very first unit in the USA), what I saw wat the BEST 3" Cordless DA Sander. The problem however is this tools comes with 3 drive unites, none of them any good for sanding.

1: Rotary Drive Unit
2: 12mm Orbital Drive Unit
3: 3mm Orbital Drive Unit

You can't sand with a rotary drive unit as it's no longer sanding, but grinding. The 12mm drive unit has such a LONG stroke, that you can't sand next to edges or raised body lines without risking sanding ON the edge or raised body line and then when you go to buff out your sanding marks, you burn through the paint. And the 3mm is to anemic or week, it struggles to maintain good sanding disc rotation and oscillation.

The Fix - 6mm Orbital Drive Unit
Once I realized the 12mm and the 3mm orbital drive units were worthless for sanding, I took some pictures using this tool to sand my black demo hood and sent them to the President, (at that time), of FLEX in Steinheim, Germany, (at that time, now they've moved manufacturing to China), and asked him,

Could you please have your Engineers make me any of the below drive units and send me one.

5mm
6mm
7mm
8mm

A few months later, they sent me a 6mm drive unit and as the saying goes, the rest is history.



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After you remove sanding marks, you’re NOT done. The next step is refining the paint to eliminate holograms from wool pads and push the finish to maximum gloss and clarity — and that’s exactly what this class trains you to do. Using gear-driven orbital polishers + Buff and Shine EdgeGuard Blueberry foam pads, the class dials in that final, show-car finish. THIS is where good work becomes elite work

For this step, I strongly recommend to the students to use any of the gear-driven orbital polishers in our tool collection, but if they want to try to do this step with a free spinning, random orbital polisher, that's okay too. The primary difference is how much FASTER you can polish a body panel simply by not having to waste time trying to maintain pad rotation and pad ocillation with free spinning, random orbital polishes. For this step the class is using the Dr. Beasley's NSP 150, which is similar to a normal polish. It's not a compound, and it's not a FINE or Ultra Fine cut polish, it's right there in that sweet spot in the middle.


Here's Josh and Brittnay working the back of the Impala and Tony off to the driver's side rear fender.

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Here's Mark working on the driver's side roof.

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Here's Cameron working the passenger rear fender.

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Here's Nic working the passenger side door.

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Up front we have John tackling the passenger side hood.

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Here's the final results after,
  1. Hand wetsanding.
  2. Machine dry sanding.
  3. Compounding with wool pad on rotary polishers.
  4. Polishing using gear-driven orbital polishers.

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Next up, the class will install a ceramic coating.


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